Which of these European schools would you rather spend a semester to a year abroad at?
I want to go somewhere that's not super duper large (so no London/Paris/Madrid/BCN/etc…). I'm also interested in an aesthetically pleasing place with access to nature. Cold climate is preferable. Strong English is super helpful.
因此，我将选择范围缩小到：
University of Oslo (Exchange), Oslo Norway
Stockholm University (Exchange), Stockholm Sweden
University of Helsinki (Exchange), Helsinki Finland
赫尔辛基附近的Aalto University Business（Exchange）
St. Gallen (Direct Enroll), St Gallen Switzerland
出于个人原因，我排除了丹麦。最好是，我将在其中一所学校度过整整一年。St Gallen与我的学位课程排队最多，其余要求并不是一个挑战。在其他任何学校完成我的学位要求都会要求我在开始之前上一个学期，然后上一个夏季课，然后开始IB英尺at my home institution here in the US.
I also would like a decent social life, and I'd hope to socialize with locals too and not just other internationals. Also interested in traveling, so access to airports is a small factor as well.
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I studied abroad in Beijing through Columbia at Peking University and Valencia Spain through UVA.
我会检查一些美国学校的学校。
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
When were you in Beida? Did you like the Chinese vibe?
我在2005年夏季在贝达（Beida）。这是一个非常享有声望的计划。我有一个北京的大学身份证，并用它来在市场上讨价还价。他们称其为“中国的哈佛”，您可能知道Tsinghua像MIT一样。
我花了一些时间来调整中国文化和食物。美国中国食品与正宗的中国菜有点不同。但是，Hotpot和Beijing Duck是我当地的一些最爱。
I had to take a Chinese test through Columbia to get into L2 Chinese classes, but only qualified for L1, so the classes were somewhat easy for me and I went clubbing almost every night at Mix and Vics at Gongti. Overall it was a good experience and I still know basic Mandarin and know Chinese customs and culture which is a big deal to Chinese people I meet when they hear I put in the effort.
My school sent me to China and paid for the whole thing including airfare and food and tuition (not beer though) in my attempt to get a Fulbright research grant to study underemployment in China. I was accepted on the US side, but China rejected my grant as they probably didn't want some young US person meddling with their inside economics. Most Fulbright grants are to study art and culture.
但是，是的，美好的时光。我也遇到了很多哥伦比亚的学生，仍然与一些学生有密切的联系，甚至参加了我在中国学习的一个朋友的婚礼。
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
What do you mean you studied at beijing through columbia and spain through UVA. Did you go to undergrad in UVA then transferred to columbia whilst simultaneously going on exchange? Or did the programs run whilst studying like a masters degree? cheers, cool stories as well.
Some schools have international study programs like this:
https://valencia.virginia.edu
看来北京的哥伦比亚大学可能不再存在，但是哥伦比亚大学国际研究与北京大学之间的合作伙伴关系。
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
on my undergrad transcript it said Columbia or UVA. They were all pass or fail classes. Most of my Spanish degree is from UVA.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
Princeton has a Beijing program that is TBD in 2022, but their program is notoriously hard. Those kids never left their rooms abroad - they were given so much homework and not a lot of time to experience Chinese life.
https://pib.princeton.edu
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
This is a good time to pick up another language - challenge yourself and even if you're not in a language program, you'll learn a lot in immersion.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
我会在德国瑞士的圣加伦（St Gallen）中获得第三级德语。无论如何，我都必须上那堂课，而且我不能在北欧学校上一所北欧学校，因为它会在那里用当地语言教授，所以我然后被迫夏天去英尺IBhere.
Go to whatever school sounds interesting and appeals to you the most. It's not going to help with your career or anything dramatic like that. If you want to get to know the locals, see if you can do a home stay.
Quite frankly, if you don't know the native language, you will struggle to get to know locals. The Finns are especially cold in my experience. My Finnish friends joked that they didn't even notice the Covid social distancing. I'd recommend whatever school has the largest amount of international/exchange students who aren't from America. Chances are most of them speak English so you can have the common language in your friend group be English, even if you have people from Germany, Hungary, Denmark, Estonia, etc.
个人会去圣加伦（St Gallen），尽管要当心瑞士（甚至比奥斯陆（Oslo）这样的其他列表中的其他人）是Ultra HCOL。
I would go because Switzerland is probably one of the most beautiful countries on Earth.
If not then I'd pick Oslo or Stockholm.
St Gallen. Not worth the impact to your home courseload unless you are leaning strongly towards Nordic for other reasons.
Will be very easy to travel (airport, also don't forget that Europe and especially Switzerland have a great train system) the people usually speak English and tons of outdoor activities and quaint mountain towns. It's a hassle to get to mainland Europe from the Nordic countries and you'd probably only go a few times, versus in Switzerland you could check out a different area every weekend if you wanted to.
St. Gallen is boring as shit though
second that.
lmfao dude是tryna，得到一些斯堪的纳维亚猫，尊重，那6英尺的金发女神可以得到的管道比工业水暖系统更多
That and cuz I bought some expensive jackets and need to justify my impulse purchases
scandinavian women ranked by country:
芬兰is not Scandinavian
他们不喜欢平均5'5'混合种族美国。
Not with that attitude. As a 5 7 Asian, I've had no problem. It's all about confidence.
Disclaimer: I did not attend any of the schools you mentioned, but come from the DACH-region and can speak a bit about HSG and know some people who did their masters at one of the other Unis.
I would strongly advise against St. Gallen. Although it might sound like a fairytale (small town in Switzerland, high-ranking academics etc.), it is not. I know many people who did their undergrad / graduate studies there and most people give off hardo-vibes, so please consider this. Also Switzerland is very expensive. Even if you manage to go to Zurich etc. for a few short-trips, accommodation, food etc. will set you back by a lot. The Swiss can be quite uncommunicative to foreigners, so please consider this as well. Please also make sure that the German-course they give you is "regular" german and not swiss-german. This would diminish your learning experience and reduce your applicability.
Don't get trapped in a village, paying >20€ for a kebab (compared to 5-7€ in Germany / Austria) with unfriendly people.
The cost isn't really an issue. Tuition would for INTLs would save me a few grand there compared to my home institution. The higher CoL would even out.
HSG student here. Dont waste your exchange semester on St Gallen. In terms of reputation, HSG is a contender for being one of the best (business) universities in Cont. Europe and probably the best in D-A-CH. But this comes at a cost. The "city" is rather depressing. Granted, the HSG spirit originates from house parties and the close-knit community but I am not sure how well you could break into it on your exchange. Disregard the prestige and go to Stockholm!
I'm from the Nordics so DM if you want any inputs.
I'd go with Oslo or Stockholm. I'm probably biased, having lived in both places, but Helsinki is much more boring IMO. If one of your wishes is to mix with the locals, then Finland shouldn't be on your list at all. It will be very hard for you to get to know anyone over one semester in Finland.
I don't know... Yeah. Almost definitely yes.
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