HF/Trading可笑的SWE薪水？
A couple people I know received SWE offers from hedge funds/trading像城堡这样的公司证券和哈德逊河贸易他们的第一年薪酬平均为425k，最高为550k。所有刚从本科生出来。他们提到，他们希望在7 - 10年的时间内以大约7位数字付款。
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HFT公司are the most lucrative part of finance today, SWE at aHFTfirm is front office，这就是他们赚钱的方式。
What's SWE stand for?
软件工程。
Faang的SWE在大学毕业时正在制作250k-300k，这些工作甚至不难获得。因此，是的，这些更具竞争力的工作要支付更多。
Believe me those jobs are hard to get
Lol, no they aren't. I know dozens of people in these roles. These roles being hard to get is a myth perpetuated on this website.
从字面上看，我学校的每个人都想要一份faang工作并主修CS有一个，毫无例外。甚至没有与顶级财务机会相同的竞争领域。如果您上一所体面的学校（不仅是常春藤，我说的是前50名），中度聪明，并认真尝试其中一项工作，您会得到一所。
Just to debunk some myths, you are exaggerating tech pay out of college by $50-100k. Outside of exceptional circumstances, fresh grads are hired into L3 or equivalent roles, where you can see the distribution of pay pretty clearly for FAANG (note that Netflix famously does not hire new grads):
https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-Engineer/E3/
https://www.levels.fyi/company/amazon/salaries/software-engineer/sde-i/
https://www.levels.fyi/company/apple/salaries/software-engineer/ict2/
https://www.levels.fyi/company/google/salaries/software-engineer/l3/
在您提到的公司中，付款中心的价格很高，价格为18万美元。您可以看到该角色的发行最高分数为220k，而这些往往在更昂贵 /高税的城市中，对于那些去更好的学校，在面试中做得很好的人，并获得了竞争优势（也许来自Quant）金融）。此外，与大多数财务角色相比，长期薪酬淡淡的淡淡，这种观点对于看到这一点非常有帮助：
https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Apple,Amazon,Google,Facebook&track=Software%20Engineer
大多数工程师的预期途径是最多工作L5 /高级软件工程师（大多数在此存储桶中为6-12），其中工资水平为$ 350-400K。在这一点之后，很少有进步，大多数人都在这里陷入困境。大约1/20认真的候选人使其成为另一个级别（L6/员工工程师），而1/100使它提高了两个级别。但是，L7仍然比7个数字范围差几百K，而且大多数设法达到这一水平的人以10-30 Yoe的身分进入了30年代/40级。
重点是，试图与技术竞争并不是真正促进量子市场顶端工资增长的原因，最高量子公司可以从薪酬角度降低支付，并且仍然可以舒适地击败技术（并且与技术的帮助得到了帮助。最佳人才的一部分已经变得自我选择，这一事实是知道他们更喜欢在Quant上工作而不是技术工作。更重要的驱动力是量化公司增加了他们愿意为市场上最好的人才支付最高人才的程度，这是因为他们相互竞争而加剧了（不想夸大这一点，但如果如今的HRT喜欢最高的量化资料，并且没有雇用它们，那么候选人在Citadel SEC工作的几率和对他们的交易比以前要高得多，而5-10年前同一候选人是更少的自我选择，更有可能最终进入Facebook）。
您是对的，这个论坛上的大多数人都有比实际的faang工作更难的印象，但是您像工资一样夸张了25-50％。
我侄子的狗屎阶层学校（加拿大非目标）的每个人都接受了一些CS课程（甚至只有未成年人）获得了FAAMG座位的赞助。
自Covid以来，大型技术薪水一直在增加。
无视我的头衔
I used to be a IT project manager at anHFT公司，每周40个小时的工作能力达到25万，从事真正的后台工作。本科生几年。决定不仅仅因为金钱而转向企业/金融事业，我只是整天无法处理与Uber书呆子的打交道。
I had a liberal arts degree too. Managing IT systems projects. 250k comp in my 20s...not bad for back office lol
您从本科生中的第一份工作是什么？
因此，最初几年后，Comp的外观是什么样的。直到他们达到7个数字，只是好奇。
Someone quoted to me 20% average YoY growth. So by year 2, total compensation should be close to year 1 compensation, and meet/beat (depending on performance) by year 3.
显然，随着差异的增长，赔偿很难概括
WTF ...我从事错误的业务
这是前台。Alpha的一代来自拥有最好的系统。而且这些都是全加入数字，可能不会重复。7图+would require PnL贡献。
300-500k is the "new normal" for top of market quant new grads going to the best firms. SWE is pretty much a front office role at trading firms now (though not at quant hedge funds). InHFT每年最高的人都知道这是ROI较高要采用Quant Trader在做什么并用软件替换它，以至于我想回到HFT我更愿意作为SWE（尤其是在HRT，在Citadel少）这样做，因为它基本上是相同的，风险要小得多。
others are suggesting that competition from tech is driving wages, but that is really not the case. levels.fyi provides transparent data on tech wages and shows a big tech new grad typically gets < $200k in comp without much variance on that number. Most of the quant openings pay about the same as big tech (maybe 10-20% higher) for entry level, but the best firms have recently shifted to paying a fat premium for the very best young talent in a small number of roles (would say this started around 2017-2019). My perspective on this has always been firms are getting much better at converting young talent into revenue generators quickly (though it is much harder to do this with B players), so its becoming less of a gamble to pay to lock down the best talent from the start. Also, these roles have rightfully becoming riskier with the wage increase, where if the new hire doesn't live up to expectations they are just as quickly shown the door.
我为认为7次图7-10年而疯狂吗？是的，这些人是学校表现最好的人，但表现最好PE还付了7个无花果吗？我一直以为HFTpays a lot out of ugrad to compete with big tech for intellectual talent, but after that the pay progression slows down compared to other areas of finance. Obviously 7 figs is a lot but presumably if you can get aHFTjob you could also get a banking/PE工作of ugrad
HFT公司do not treat their employees that great before everyone goes ape shit. Not only very tough roles to get, ironclad non competes, golden handcuffs list goes on.
他们仍然可以跳到福吗？与非竞争
Depends on the non-compete, but generally, yes you can still go to FAANG. Although, FAANG generally pays a fair bit less than revenue producing "quant" roles.
Lower pay, different skillset, different environment. The point of the noncompetes is to control you, imagine if you found out your algo made your firm 20x what you mean maybe 50x. But your firm gives no path to being a partner.
Apparently you can go work inMFPE，退出老虎全球，并在那里工作的3年内制造7-8个数字...这些数字蚀了HFT
Who! So u can make 8 figures at tiger in 2-3 years of joining? No wonder its the dream job
According to the Tiger recruitment thread,老虎全球和潘兴economics justify high7，即使在平庸的一年中，每年低8个数字
Lmao here we go again. Tech vs Finance. Both sides unwilling to kneel to the other.
You want both skillsets fellas, and maybe a bit more (s&m, analytics, product, bizops), so you can run your own shit and make more than the coding monkeys and音调书猴子组合。
Im currently a SWE at a top道具交易伦敦公司（忽略我的头衔），虽然工资确实很高（约200万英镑+），但与交易者的收入相比，Comp的进度仍然显得苍白。高级交易者的7个数字比高级SWES的7个数字更为普遍。我猜想，如果我表现良好，我的组件将在8年之后约500-60万英镑。但是，风险也较小，压力/小时较低，因此这是一个不错的权衡。
我很好奇，伦敦通常收入多少高级交易员？
差异很大，但是我的桌子的初级交易员（<3 Yoe）今年的价格为250-400k+，我希望我的桌子的高级交易员（5岁）至少达到100万英镑以上。
Is the SWE your first role out of undergrad? 200k pound? That's insane considering how much London underpays in general.
是的，这是我在本科生中的第一个角色。
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