Power trading internationally
嘿WSO,
我即将完成工程学学位，并希望进入能源市场。目前，长期目标是成为一名权力交易者。
在电力行业（天然气/煤炭/可再生工厂的工程角色）进行了一些实习，这引起了我对电力市场的兴趣。到目前为止，我很幸运能得到一对interviews for tradinganalyst and RT trader roles at utilities, which is very exciting.
However, I am very keen to work abroad. Obviously Europe and North America are awesome (I'm an aussie), but I'm especially keen on some of the more remote corners of the world - I'm thinking Central Asia, Africa, South America, Southeast Asia etc. Sure I could visit on a holiday, but if I could see some of the world and advance my career at the same time, that would be the dream.
据我所知，其他商品的交易者通常会在巴西范围内的大豆产量，印度尼西亚的液化石油气码头，哈萨克斯坦的矿山等等。我猜电力有点独特，因为它不是批量的商品，但是我想知道是否仍然有任何国际工作机会。
Should I maybe try to get involved with another commodity if working abroad is a priority? Power is my main interest at the moment given my background, but I'm open to others.
Would love to get your thoughts on this, maybe hear about your experiences if you don't mind sharing. Cheers!
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出色的。
Aussie market is liquid (shout out to Loy Yang!)
在dia is mostly short term.
Brazil and Central America have decent spot markets.
If you REALLY want to get ugly, the pan-African market is the wild west and completely illiquid. (Kenya, Ethiopia, Egypt, etc).
显然，韩国和日本是最成熟的。
Namaste.
D.O.U.G.
嘿D.O.U.G., thanks for replying!
Funny that you mention Loy Yang, I worked at one of them for a bit! How do you know about coal fired power stations in Australia? Do you trade the NEM?
Wild west sounds like my kind of deal. Truthfully don't know much about the African markets, but it might be interesting to see how more interconnectors / more renewables will contribute to their development. Could be an exciting region to get involved in for sure, will have to keep my eye out.
After doing a bit more research, I get the vibe that trading houses involved in international markets seem to do all their trading from one location (typically Europe). Do you know if traders get deployed to the location of the markets they trade, or is that not really a thing in power?
我卖Citipower回来。
The way to think about it is this. Europe trades Europe and Africa. North America trades NA. South America isSA. Asia is home country or Singapore / Tokyo.
https://www.esmap.org/sites/esmap.org/files/BN004-10_REISP-CD_South%20A…
https://japanesepower.org/
Namaste.
D.O.U.G.
哦，很棒，谢谢您的链接。立即阅读SAPP报告。
Looks like I'll have to aim for Singapore or Europe. Not as far off the beaten track as I was hoping but would still be an interesting experience :)
目前的目标是在这里或向前的桌子上筹集几年的经验，然后看看我是否可以在海外登陆演出。不确定该计划有多可行，但至少它可以努力解决！
Thanks for your input :)
Think DOUG answered mostly hes on point. But yah basically nonexistent most places since the market is not mature enough. Brazil is the most exotic place. Like I do not think non-locals even can get into the Asian markets.
Would say the BD side possibly has more but then you basically working in energy development and not trading.
嘿，马塞洛斯，谢谢您的回复。
是的，在电力市场方面，我的选择似乎有些限制。可惜的是，我认为我愿意住在遥远的地方是我职业生涯的优势，但事实并非如此。您知道气体是否相同？实际上，我已经收到了公用事业公司的天然气交易分析师角色的报价，但是我不确定这是否比国际曝光的潜力要好得多。也许我可以用它来旋转液化天然气？我认为液化天然气的批量货物本质可能会为世界各地的不同植物旅行提供更多机会 - 真的不确定，只是试图识别一些选择大声笑。
Gas hubs are dubai/singapore/london for the most part. For sure there is some more fringe opportunities out there. Issue is you probably dont want those fringe opportunities. Truly a couple firms like Trafigura for instance ask how flexible someone is in their career since they love ultimate flexibility. So I wouldnt so much say go for the fringe opps just for different lifestyle locale instead target the major firms since they are the ones who do this stuff, know you will have the credit/experience behind you and in your interviews/networking really push you are super flexible like super duber flexible like if you want to buy an LNG terminal in Africa overnight I am your guy.
I'm not from energy background but can talk to the relocation points.
If you have any second citizenship (eg I have UK + Aus) it makes it way easier to move. In any case, going to the UK would be easiest coming from Aus. I would aim for 1-2 yrs Aus experience and then directly apply for entry level trading/shift trading roles in the UK. Then once you have some UK/Northern markets experience it would be possible to move between UK, Ireland, Scandinavia, Germany. Maybe Switzerland. This is probably your best bet, realistically.
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