德意志银行将在2016年取消奖金:多达90%的银行家受到影响

那么人们在DB上听到什么?这真的会影响副总裁及以下工资吗?

PerNYPost and Bloomberg

首先,这是NY帖子,根据该职位,Deutsche Bank可能会退出多达90%的银行家和交易者的奖金,并指出只有最高收入的最高收入生成器可能会获得2016年的奖金,即使这也可以支付。根据一位内部讨论的消息来源,接下来的五年。

该银行去年因其资本充足性,股价23%以及从欧洲到美国首席执行官约翰·克里安(John Cryan)的股价上涨23%而受到震撼,现年56岁盈利能力和资本缓冲。该银行周二与美国司法部达成了72亿美元的最终和解,该银行在金融危机之前就其抵押证券的销售额达成了销售。它仍在寻求结束与俄罗斯部门有关的调查。尽管报告表明和解可能会影响银行支付奖金的能力,但如果银行对和解使用激励赔偿金,则无法确认。

该帖子补充说,这不是德意志首席执行官约翰·克里安(John Cryan)自2014年接任以来裁定奖金的第一次:去年,银行将奖金池降低了11%,并将其付款延迟到3月。

然后,今天早些时候,彭博社(Bloomberg)报道说,德意志将在本周告诉高级雇员时,确认了这一消息,因为去年贷方的表现,他们可能不会获得2016年的奖金。

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6y
Trader_timmy, 你怎么看?以下评论:

If the market stays even remotely stable I would have to imagine that senior bankers will be leaving in droves. If I'm an MD bringing in money for the firm, why should I stick around for some "retention package" that probably won't even actually be paid out?

IMO this move could ultimately hurtDB在长期内实质上

6y
ArcherVice, 你怎么看?以下评论:

如果您是MD,那么如果您离开时,您可能会有几百万个未投资的薪酬。更不用说您构建的内部网络是为了完成粪便并向银行建立您的价值……或者我想。

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Allday_028, 你怎么看?以下评论:
ArcherVice:

如果您是MD,那么如果您离开时,您可能会有几百万个未投资的薪酬。更不用说您构建的内部网络是为了完成粪便并向银行建立您的价值……或者我想。

If you have a legitimate client list that makes you a desirable option to poach, you'll get made whole when you get poached. Then what happens is the legitimately good MDs leave, leavingDBwith the bottom tier MDs, and thus continuing their spiral downward. High variable compensation, despite looking insane to non finance people and shareholders, is the cost of of doing business if you want to keep a competitive platform.

6y
jamie_diamond, 你怎么看?以下评论:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr-cfzcphjm

什么音乐会花费45美分?50美分的壮举。镍背。

6y
Masterz57, 你怎么看?以下评论:

实际上,我有些震惊的是,银行的行为比股东的利益更大。在“普通”公司中,如果公司发布了绝对的狗藏结果(ASDB已经完成了),没有人获得奖金,这被认为是上述表现的自然结果。只有在银行业中,人们才认为自己有权在痛苦的表现上获得奖金。

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6y
Trader_timmy, 你怎么看?以下评论:

Banking is a service business not a product business, so I don't think it fits what I assume you view as a "normal" company. But also it's not even the banker's performance that hurt the bank overall. It's fines for shit the bank did 9 years ago that are hurting the bank's performance. The current employees are literally paying for the transgressions their employer committed when those employees most likely didn't even work there.

让我们将场景更改为出售浴帘环的公司。假装您是一名推销员,他的基本工资很小,并获得了您出售的戒指的佣金。您继续出售浴帘戒指的shitton,但随后被告知您今年没有获得佣金来“提高股东价值”。你要做什么?您要bit子,然后去其他地方,因为您只是在卖他妈的浴帘戒指。

6y
Masterz57, 你怎么看?以下评论:

4 points:

  1. If you look atDB's business performance ex-fines, it has still been terrible. It's not like the current employees are creating a lot of value which is being swamped by fines.

  2. 除了金融业,银行家都不按任何标准赚取“小”基本工资。

  3. Most bonus structures I've seen at non-banking companies feature overall company performance as a large % of bonus calculation. At my company for instance ~65% of your bonus is determined by the North America sub's performance. The particular P&L I'm on could be up 30% this year but that only affects the individual portion of my bonus formula. It fosters a team-oriented culture, not an individual-focused culture. FYI, our sales people are compensated on a very similar formula (overall company performance far outweighs individual contribution).

  4. Your second example is not really accurate. A commission-based salesman almost always has that commission legally written into his employment contract. It's not a discretionary commission, it's a set % of his sales. Banking is not a commission-based system. Yes, bonuses are tied to individual sales/performance but they are entirely at the discretion of the company. They could pay you based on the length of your mustache if they felt like it.

EDIT:

  1. Your argument only applies to the ~5-10% of bankers who are actually responsible for revenue (MDs for the most part). No one else has any $$ they can point to and say "I'm responsible for that". Believe it or not, the real value creation inIBis sales, not 100-hour weeks from people in their mid-20s. People are pretty interchangeable at that level despite what their egos may believe.
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Walmartshopper, 你怎么看?以下评论:

welcome to the wonderful world of reality. everyone left after the music stops is in this situation. government, banking, volkswagen emissions scandal...it's the way it is. if you're the poor sap left holding the bag, well then, sucks to be you.

Trader_timmy:

Banking is a service business not a product business, so I don't think it fits what I assume you view as a "normal" company. But also it's not even the banker's performance that hurt the bank overall. It's fines for shit the bank did 9 years ago that are hurting the bank's performance. The current employees are literally paying for the transgressions their employer committed when those employees most likely didn't even work there.

让我们将场景更改为出售浴帘环的公司。假装您是一名推销员,他的基本工资很小,并获得了您出售的戒指的佣金。You proceed to sell a shitton of shower curtain rings, but then are told you aren't being paid your commission this year to "improveshareholder value." Whatr you gonna do? You're gonna bitch and then go somewhere else because you're only selling fucking shower curtain rings.

如果手套不合适,则必须无罪!
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Gutshot, 你怎么看?以下评论:

伤害了我们所有人。只有少数顶级银行。付出的薪水越多DB, the more it just drags the industry down. Everyone looks to street as a standard. Again, nobody's starving and we should all be grateful. But the trajectory is pretty clear, has been clear for years, and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon unfortunately.

6y
jim_lahey, 你怎么看?以下评论:

所支付的奖金的22.7%作为各种形式的酒,例如加拿大俱乐部或加拿大猎人。实际上,这是一个更好的价值存储,鉴于彼得·希夫(Peter Schiff)昨天第3478579次宣布,美国债务炸弹将在特朗普爆炸时爆炸,使美元无用。一个人想知道为什么DBis not opting to pay ALL of its bonus in liquor, especially given that since the electionDB大量参与了回购-ing cash for liquor instead of bonds (and bonds for liquor instead of cash). in the event of a debt shitbombDB将是富含酒的酒,看来DBtop 1% is hoarding it for themselves at the expense of the lower and middle-class revenue generators. if this scenario is any indication, financial assets are rapidly losing value and mr. schiff is correct. the debt shitbomb is going to explode. soon.

I AM THE LIQUOR
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RJ1443, 你怎么看?以下评论:

god that's funny mr. Lahey!

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