Depressed about heading back to the Office
是的，我明白了。学习对像我这样的初中的人来说更好，更重要。但是我现在真的很喜欢在家。也许情况比平常慢，但即使在忙碌的日子里，情况也不是那么糟糕。我仍然可以花时间做我喜欢或做任何事情的健康饭菜。即使像洗衣服的简单事物也是天哪。下午2点的快速健身泵？完毕。同样，这可能是因为我是一个强调WLB相对于您所有人的小组。
但是现在，随着事情回到办公室，我不禁感到恐惧。就像我被困。锁在我的桌子上，穿着不舒服的衣服。被迫从外面吃糟糕的午餐和晚餐。我也很担心在公共厕所里s刺（甚至不想很有趣）。
It seems insane but this honestly making me reconsiderIBeven though I surprisingly don't mind the work or hours at all. Honestly. It feels silly to throw away my future especially when I'm actually okay with the work and can see myself grinding it out, but I genuinely do not want to have to go into an office.
Maybe it's something psychological too for me. Like having to dress all up and go sit at a desk and pretend to look busy. Whereas I'm here at home now sitting in sweats just doing some mindless tasks listening to a podcast on full blast.
好叫我猫咪或我们这一代ak or whatever but is it so bad that I like this current comfort? I'm not lazy in the sense that I don't want to do work. But why the hell do I have to go through old materials and models all day long in the office when I have nothing going on. Maybe this means I'm not as super passionate about the industry but c'mon. I guess this means corporate life isn't for me or something. I'd like to know how you all feel and are navigating the situation? Maybe you all have a lot of friends in your office and it's seen as a fun part of your day?
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Maybe being friends/acquaintances with coworkers could help?
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What coworkers hurt you jeez
This attitude is how you stay an individual contributor.
This feels like a comment coming from someone with little/no experience...going to guess a new hire from this year's cycle (+ the 2020 COVIDsummer internship）。。。。。
与另一个人或团队应对逆境比其他人建立更牢固/更长的纽带 - 如果有的话，从彼此之间的同情心或幕后欺负。至少这就是我的工作）。
When you go on stretches of working ~20ish days in a row (with a handful of all nighters sprinkled in), you're completely gassed from turning (and turning and turning...) comments, running on espresso and Airbars, and a new stack of comments hits your inbox at 11:30PM on Sunday - sometimes all you can do (especially with WFH) is rage on the universe with the analyst/associate you're staffed with to keep yourselves sane.
I've always thought that going through adversity with a partner or teammate builds way stronger personal relationships between people than otherwise (see: any mandatory New Member Education character building activities in college). Sometimes during the course of this job, you get really unlucky, clients are coming at you with multiple asks on live deals, and life is generally 11 different shades of fucked with no end in sight. Those are the times where youhaveto rely on your brother / sister that's out there in the shit with you to cover for you when you're getting bukkaked with comments on different live deals at the same time and feel like you're drowning.
There's sort of an unspoken bond or level of trust between a junior team that had already been through the ringer with one another a previous process. You wouldn't fuck your teammate over, particularly for such an petty and innocuous reason like not being PC in conversation. Like that's just something that's very hard for me to empathize with or comprehend - hard to see it happening.
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Surprised this asswhipe didn't get a bunch of MS because he clearly is one
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Hey man good for you for putting this out there.
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Hopefully senior people in the industry will pull their heads out of their asses on this topic before all of our engineers churn out after bonus season. Cat's out of the bag, flexibility is better.
为什么is this getting MS? And the other guy was a dick to OP also. Convinced there's a segment on this site that either enjoys seeing others upset or just isn't actually I'm the field to know what it's like.
Have you guys been WFH this whole time? Because if so I think you should be a little more open-minded. My firm was WFH for the first two weeks and we have been flexed in-office every since. Most people come in M-Thurs and do WFH friday but I think the culture around WFH has really changed post-covid so people pretty much come in when they want/need to. Plus you get to meet and bond with fellow analysts/associates which could be an aspect of the analyst experience you didn't even know you've been missing out on.
What time do you and other junior leave the office
Your mileage will vary based on the culture of your firm but deadass I've walked out at 715 and just said I was gonna wfh. Another junior just stopped coming in. Generally people don't care as long as you do your shit.
我的想法是WFH应该是灵活的事情，TWT应该在办公室。但MFimo should be an optional WFH. And obviously, if there are circumstances that stop you from coming into the office one day then that should be accepted. Being in the office with your colleagues is important but so is the time at home or with family. It gives people the ability to go home to see family for 4 days and still get work done. It would absolutely makeIBmuch more bearable since you have some time to do other things. Instead of acting like you're being productive on a PPT from 3 years ago on a slow Monday morning you can do some cleaning, get a workout in, etc. Banks that allow WFH 1/2 times a week will see alot less burnout imo, unless ofc they are just sweaty 99% of the time. I can't tell you how many times I've had a 5-hour break and just sat there on my phone scrambling to look productive when someone walked by, and it's just stupid.
为什么not just let everyone decide if they want to come in whenever? If banks were able to post record profits in one the busiest periods ever all from home what gives? I understand for client meetings and stuff it's different and I'd still argue that everyone on the team should be located in the same city as the office, but why even have mandated days to come in when deals and work flows are so random? I could end up having a shit ton of weekend work at home but then nothing at the start of the week.
我同意。我讨厌办公室。当我达到足够高的时间时，我计划有90％的时间。希望随着年轻一代的发展，它会这样，但是大多数MDS等都可以控制它。
This x1000. It is almost like working in the office has nothing to do with productivity or raw output, but control over employees during work hours. It is such bullshit.
Mandatory work in office protocol is only to appease boomers who want to avoid their miserable lives at home. Any younger person (e.g., pre-kids) has a huge incentive to want to WFH whenever possible. With the lack of client facing activities going on (particularly at a junior level), being in-person no longer adds value.
Additionally, I am sureIBis the same as consulting right now, but when there are client meetings, only the big dogs are going right now. No one with under 6 years ofFTexperience is going, as they arent deemed necessary. They just dial in, same as any other junior employee.
我也很害怕。自从7月开始以来，我可能要去办公室3次，而且想到的想法令人恐惧。
Every single one of my deals is in a holding pattern. I maybe do 5 hours of work a week and my new project is I get the pleasure of training thismba从未从事金融工作的合伙人，更不用说银行业务（没有实习）了。昨天的培训课程是60分钟的“如何发送日历邀请”，他无法将头缠住。在过去的一周中，我每天都在5点登录。同时，我的其他分析师快要死了，因为他们在为了获得他们的同事的陪伴下工作，所以我不着急添加另一个垂直方向。
Guess I'll have to schedule all my meetings T-Th to look busy and avoid getting more staffing because I'm going to die come 2022 when everything starts up again.
Fuck I hope this isn't true
The sad thing is it is true (he has to be a diversity hire) and themba同事将是通过告诉其他团队成员来毁灭它的人。我们的垂直行业今年获得了最多的费用。每天在我们的圆圈上，他四倍检查他无需做任何事情，副总裁说敲木头。副总裁告诉我要在4:00登录，并把我的手机放在我身上。说的副总裁还封锁了我们的日历上的2小时插槽，让我们吃午餐然后去健身房。
最近有很多失误，有几个高级人士正在度假，假期的事情放慢了。
I'm sure you could find another job that would make you happy.
What do you mean? Like remote?
Yes. If you're dreading it that much, give someone else who's hungrier and happy to come into the office an opportunity and find a career where you can easily work from home.
otherwise you'll be wasting your time and your employer's time.
Everyone feels this way. That's why permanent work from home or remote are being offered more and more. Although coming in a couple times a week is definitely helpful from an efficiency perspective in my opinion as some things are better talked about live.
IsCitiIBDstillremote/hybrid or are they mostly in-person?
I know most banks are back to full in-person during the week, any banks we know that are still hybrid/ flexible?
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Genuinely think getting past the first couple days/weeks will be super game changing. It's definitely an added inconvenience to the norm of having to commute to the office but you'll hopefully find that you're able to create and develop good relationships with folks you work with who you've only really talked to via zoom or email. It really makes a difference and can honestly be fun if you go out for dinner/drinks. And especially now, a lot of firms bringing ppl back to the office will sponsor outings in the name of rebuilding camaraderie so take advantage!
Eh what's the point? There's so much turnover in this industry and the chance is that you stay in touch with people. I don't know, call me naive, but I don't buy it.
Building relationships with coworkers = relationships that may be helpful to you / your career in the future
人们一直在这个行业中一直在工作 /面试 /交易介绍等
I'm with you bro, I spent my first full day in the office last week and that shit is for the birds. granted, my opinion will most certainly change if we get some little brofessors running around but for now, WFH is the GOAT
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